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Dog Food Dilemma

To jump right to the the dog food brand reviews click here “Karens K9s Dog Food Brand PDF Review Revised 4-28-12“. The definitions of the terminology used (such as Sodium Selenite) start on page 13.  Let me know if you have any questions or another brand you would like me to review. :) Scroll down to read the “Dog Food Dilemma”.

Note: Corrections have been made as we collect your feedback and information that we get directly from the companies. Please continue to review the document and it will become more comprehensive and benefit our pets.

As a “natural approach” layperson, I am trying to bring the most exhaustive information that I’ve learned for everyone to use in their decision to feed their animals. Please understand that the quantity of material will sometimes lead to human mistakes and narrative insertion. Please feel free to contact me if you find anything that you think might be an error, so that I can re-address and correct it. Thanks!

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DOG FOOD DILEMMA

My first question to you is………….what do you think they do with the three to four million euthanized pets that are retrieved from the shelters and veterinarian offices per year??????

Cremation?  Think again…….about how much it would cost to fire up the crematory.

Burial?  How much land would it take to bury three to four million pets per year?

Unbelief and shock is usually the reaction I get when I reveal to people the results of my search for a better way to feed our German Shepherds 17 years ago.

My first concern came when I asked my trainer which “BIG” named dry dog food we should feed our dogs.  She rolled her eyes and said, “Do your dog’s a favor.  Mix a little raw hamburger into the dry food.  They did come from wolves you know”.  RAW?????   Eeeeekk!  I then thought about how my Mom would buy raw kidney’s to feed to her cats and they would eat it raw.  Hmmmmmm.

About this time is when our first GSD, at one year old was diagnosed with severe Exocrine Pancreatic Insufficiency, or EPI.  EPI is a condition caused by the failure of the pancreas to produce digestive enzymes.  The body cannot assimilate the food eaten without enzymes.   Results are bloody diarrhea, a ravenous appetite, (no matter how much you feed them they are still hungry after-wards), severe weight lost and malnutrition. This is not uncommon with the breed but she was so severe, the vet at that time told us she wouldn’t see three years old.  The regiment my previous vets put her on was not working and she was getting worse, so we turned to a more natural approach, used homeopathy and supplements. This was the event that started my own investigation into the food we were feeding her.  With the use of this new information, our GSD Shamrock titled in agility, tracking and obedience and lived until just shy of her 12th birthday!

The first book I read, by Anne Martin, “Food Our Pets Die For” was jaw dropping, and thus started my quest for a better way.

The term “rendering plants and processing” was unfamiliar to me.  Ms. Martin shed horrifying light on the subject.  “Renderer’s” receive dead stock, by removal companies, who bring dead, diseased farm animals, zoo animals, decaying road-kill, maggots and all, restaurant and grocery store garbage, including styrofoam trays, plastic wrap, rancid grease AND hundreds of thousands of EUTHANIZED dogs and cats, YES, our companion animals, some with flea collars still attached!  THIS IS NO JOKE.

The “6 D’s”, dead, dying, destroyed, diseased, disabled or drugged were unhealthy animals with cancerous tissues or tumors, livers infested with worms (flukes), cirrhosis, animals that have died with pneumonia in their lungs, animal bowels, feces, and even fetal tissue which is dangerously high in hormones are rendered into our pets’ food!  Also, any animal carcasses with high levels of drugs, steriods or pesticides in excess of limits described by the FDA and NOT FIT to be processed for human consumption are also part of the rendering!  Meat rejected by slaughter houses and sent to the rendering plant must first be saturated with chemicals or charcoal called “denatured” a procedure designed to make it unpalatable to humans, ensuring it cannot be re-sold as human grade meat.  I personally know a health inspector who told us when they discover meat that has reached a warm temperature because of a bad refrigeration unit, in a grocery store or restaurant, they are required to throw the meat out into the dumpster and pour household bleach on it!  This is also picked up by the renderer’s!

And the “wholesome grains” we read about on the package or hear about in their commercials are really just the hulls or remnants swept up off of the factory floor!  Corn, for instance: the starch is removed for corn starch powder and the oil is extracted for corn oil, then, there is nothing left but a non-nutritious substance!  IF… a “whole grain” is really used, it has probably been deemed “unfit for human consumption” (pet food companies get it cheaper that way which increases their profit) because of mold, contaminants, or poor quality.  It is no wonder most pet food recalls are due to toxins in grains like wheat and corn called aflatoxins, a naturally occurring mold by-product!  Grains are used to increase the percentage of protein in the analysis, and are also highly indigestible causing stress on kidneys and a major allergen to animals. Did you also know that chicken FEATHERS, when processed, are 100% protein and could be part of the ingredients that make up the “protein” in your pets’ food?

Three of the five major pet food companies are owned by huge corporations.

Colgate-Palmolive owns Hills, Science Diet, and Hills Prescription

Proctor & Gamble owns Eukanuba, Iams, California Natural, Innova, and Evo

Del Monte Foods owns Nature’s Recipe

Nestle owns Alpo, Fancy Feast, Friskies, Mighty Dog, and Purina One

Heinz owns , Nature’s Recipe, 9 Lives, Amore, Gravy Train, Kibble –n-Bits

Mars owns Royal Canin, Nutro Natives, Kal Kan, Mealtime, Sheba, and Waltman’s

My sister was so horrified years ago when I told her, she called her dog food company (one of the big ones that is listed above) and actually (I don’t know how) spoke to the President of the company!  His response………”We would never consider allowing companion animals in our food”.  But, ignorance is bliss (and money) isn’t it?  They purchase meat from the cheapest source and add all of the ingredients to be labeled a “balanced diet”.

The chemicals added to our pets’ food is despicable!  Reporter John Eckhouse uncovered that veterinarians began reporting to the FDA that the Sodium Pentobarbital, used to euthanize dogs and cats, was losing its effectiveness.  Why????  Because these animals had been eating food with trace amounts of sodium pentobarbital in it for years, FROM…….EUTHANIZED PETS and other euthanized animals in their food!

A research paper from University of Minnesota stated that the barbiturate, Sodium Pentobarbital, survives the rendering process WITHOUT undergoing degradation.  When ingested, sodium pentobarbital has shown to cause liver and kidney damage and renal failure.

Other unwanted ingredients like pesticides and insecticides get into the mix by way of poisoned livestock, and fish oil laced with DDT and other poisonous herbicides that are found in West Coast mackerel and tuna.

With the cumulative effects of years of ingesting all of these different chemicals, not even mentioning preservatives like Ethoxyquin, a carcinogen used as a rubber preservative!  AND Ethoxyquin (or “E”) is required by US Coast Guard regulations to be used “At Sea” as a preservative for fish or fish oil that is not destined for human consumption unless there has been a specific signed contract put in place between the pet company and the harvesting fishery, which is rarely the case!!!  Is it a wonder to you that our animals are suffering with skin and eye allergies, hip dysplasia, cancer, kidney and liver problems and other ailments??????

With all of the above in mind, BEWARE………. and read, read, read!  The expensive pet food you are purchasing may be slowly compromising your pets health!

My best to you and your furry family members,

Karen

Please click here “Karens K9s Dog Food Brand PDF Review Revised 4-28-12“to see what’s in your dog food!!

  • Lynn Maniatis says:

    Great site with great info. Love the dog food brand reviews. Easy to read and a wealth of information. Sometimes when I am too busy I feed commercial food. After reading this I will be way more careful about which products I buy. Looking forward to the next edition. Maybe you can review the big warehouse brands of dog food, like Kirkland by Costco.

    January 14, 2012 at 7:07 pm
    • Karen Murray says:

      Hi Lynn, here is what is in the Kirkland kibble. Hope it helps your decision!
      Kirkland by Costco contains the following ingredients:
      Copper Sulfate: Copper sulfate is also registered for use as a weed seed treatment, for treatment of tree wounds, for control of fungi and fungal/bacterial slimes occurring in wood, and in water systems, including
      sewer pumps and force mains, pulp and paper mills, cooling towers and spray ponds.
      Sodium Selenate: ScienceLab.com states Sodium Selenite “may be toxic to blood, kidneys, liver, skin, central nervous system. Repeated or prolonged exposure to the substance can produce target organs damage.
      Mendione Sodium Bisulfate or Synthetic Vitamin K: Hazards list “carcinogenic effects” and states “the substance is toxic to kidneys, lungs, liver, mucous membranes. Repeated or prolonged exposure to the substance can produce target organs damage.”
      Egg Product: The key question here? “Is the egg product human grade or sourced from USDA approved eggs?” Unless otherwise stated by the product info, such as “Ingredients come from 100% human grade ingredients”, you can be sure it is from the human grade reject pile!
      StratfordBeaconHerald.com “A $405,000 grant through the province’s Rural Economic Development (RED) program is helping revitalize an egg-processing plant here that is converting egg “waste” into high-protein pet food products.”
      Eggs rejected for human use are turned into powdered or liquid for use by the pet food industry.
      Also, condensed information from “Poultry Science Association”: “acidified egg liquids are treated with 92% equivalency of 3.4 N NaOH after which egg meats were cooked and incorporated into a specialty pet food formulations.” NaOH is sodium hydroxide, commonly known as caustic or LYE….a CORROSIVE! Does that sound like something that should be ingested?
      There are other ingredient issues, but I’ll stop there! 

      January 14, 2012 at 7:08 pm
  • Rita says:

    Hi Karen….I’m Roman’s mom, from Julie’s blog. I’m feeding raw along with Back to Basics dry. What are your thoughts on that? Thanks.

    January 14, 2012 at 7:10 pm
    • Karen Murray says:

      3 things grab my attention:
      *The organ meat is listed is pretty heavy as the first ingredients. That being said, the “meal” from the chicken and the turkey may literally outweigh it, but since the true amount of each ingredient is never listed, it would be hard to tell.
      *The main problem would be the Sodium Selenite: ScienceLab.com states Sodium Selenite “may be toxic to blood, kidneys, liver, skin, central nervous system. Repeated or prolonged exposure to the substance can produce target organs damage.
      *The ingredient Tapioca is a starch (carbohydrate), a filler, and a binder. There is no nutritional value in it and it is the 6th ingredient. There is conflicting information on this being used in pet foods.
      Hope this helps!

      January 14, 2012 at 7:11 pm
      • Rita says:

        Thanks so much.

        January 15, 2012 at 9:07 am
  • Karen Murray says:

    You are very welcome! Any time! ;)

    January 15, 2012 at 9:30 am
  • Tom R. says:

    When serving fish as a part of the diet, is there a way, or a fish type that doesn’t smell so bad when using it?

    January 15, 2012 at 4:48 pm
  • Karen Murray says:

    No, unfortunately there isn’t. The Sardines or Salmon is an important part of the diet for the essential fatty acids and to provide the vitamin D for your dog. My suggestion would be to boil a little water with cinnamon and cloves in it before you feed! ;)

    January 17, 2012 at 8:22 am
  • Harvey Roller says:

    So what do you recommend feeding my dogs. I do agility with one and obedience with both. I would like to cook my own foods again. What do you recommend as recipes? Do you agree with cooking?

    January 17, 2012 at 9:19 am
    • Karen Murray says:

      Hi Harvey!
      Sorry but this is a lengthy, as it deserves more than a quick answer.
      I recommend feeding REAL food instead of processed foods to dogs. But, I also realize that some people won’t or do not want to get involved with something that “takes time”. That is why a combination diet is a good way to use commercially prepared food and raw food (I’ll refer to it as a “raw” diet, just know that you can cook the meat). As for raw vs cooked, personally, I prefer the raw method but there is nothing wrong with cooking or lightly cooking the meat before it is used and mixed with the vegetables and fruit. So, to answer your question of what recipes to use, I would get Dr. Becker’s book (the 3rd edition) to understand what is involved. Other home made raw diets are incomplete and eventually, your dog could run into health problems down the road by not getting proper nutrients for months or years. But, instead of doing a combination diet, since this will all be new to you, I would recommend purchasing Honest Kitchen products. I think, these products are the most pure dry dog food out there! They are actually dehydrated foods. And no, :) I am not a retailer for them or have any connection with their company other than recommending it because it’s really GOOD food! These are human grade, whole foods. If you read the other pages of this blog you saw that kibble is not all what the companies claim it is! The majority of those foods are ladled with chemicals. But, HUMANS actually taste every ingredient that goes into the HK recipes! REALLY! :)
      This food would be a good introduction to real food to begin with. You would slowly, wean them on to this, cutting back the brand you are currently feeding. It is a dehydrated food so you have to re-hydrate with water. The price for a small box will shock you BUT remember that this is dehydrated. A 10 pound box makes about 40 pounds of food!
      Here are some of the products: read about them in detail at: http://www.thehonestkitchen.com To find a store in your area look for the “locator” on the site. They will also do an “auto shipment” right from the factory to your home.
      EMBARK: Puppies, Gestation, Adults: Non-Grain:
      FORCE: (Chicken) for Adult Maintenance/Sensitive Dogs/Moderate activity levels – grain free/gluten free
      ZEAL: (White Fish) for Adult Maintenance/Sensitive Dogs/Moderate activity levels – grain free/gluten free
      THRIVE: (Chicken) for ALL Life Stages – gluten free
      PREFERENCE: (Alfalfa based) you must add your own raw meat to this one. Suitable for dogs of all ages including pups and seniors. It’s an easy way to incorporate raw meat into your dog’s diet.
      Be aware that dogs’ that go from a kibble with chemicals in it, to a “clean” food, may or will probably go through a “detox” or “healing” period, which involves smelly, loose, mucousy stools. THIS IS A GOOD THING! This is because the dog’s system is shedding all the toxins that has built up in its body over the years. Not fun, but a really good for the dog! :) AND proof of what your fur kid’s body has been carrying around! By the way, also make sure you change their treats! If you are using anything from most of the companies that are listed on the Brand Review, they have the chemicals too! Honest Kitchen also has nice treats or you can make your own from my Recipe page!
      Please let me know if you have anymore questions or concerns. I can coach you through this! You’ll be doing the BEST thing you have ever done for them!
      My best to you and your fur kids, and, thanks so much for asking!
      Karen ;)

      January 17, 2012 at 12:21 pm
  • Karen Murray says:

    Lisa: 236.127.104
    Submitted on 2012/01/18 at 10:05 am

    The reviews of the dog food brands was the most comprehensive reviews I have ever read. I was feeding what I believed to be a very good food, Earthborn mixed with Honest Kitchen. I will now be switching over to Honest Kitchen exclusively. Now if I can just get my clients switched over.

    January 18, 2012 at 8:00 pm
  • Ginny says:

    Have you done any research on Purina Pro Plan? Thank you

    January 20, 2012 at 1:52 pm
    • Karen Murray says:

      Hi Ginny,
      Thanks for your question!
      Unfortunately, the Pro Plan and all of the Purina Products have several problems that I will list below for you. The different varieties have most of these same ingredients in them. Let me know if I can help in any way or make any suggestions for you!
      POULTRY BY PRODUCT MEAL: Slaughterhouse waste. The manufacturer does not disclose the species (or the mix of species) of the poultry used. The fowl can be obtained from any source, so there is no control over quality or contamination. Any kind of animal can be included: “4-D animals” (dead, diseased, disabled, or dying prior to slaughter), turkey, chicken, geese, buzzards, seagulls, miscellaneous road kill crawling with insects and maggots, birds euthanized at shelters and so on. The sodium pentothal used for euthanize is not destroyed by cooking so it remains present in the kibble.
      ANIMAL DIGEST: This meal is covered with charcoal and labeled “unfit for human consumption” before processing it into pet food. Digest can also include intestines, as well as the contents of those intestines, such as stool, bile, parasites and chemicals. “This ingredient is determined by the FDA to possibly contain euthanized animals”.
      MENADIONE SODIUM BISULFITE OR SYNTHETIC VITAMIN K: Hazards list “carcinogenic effects” and states “the substance is toxic to kidneys, lungs, liver, mucous membranes. Repeated or prolonged exposure to the substance can produce target organs damage.”
      SODIUM SELENATE: ScienceLab.com states Sodium Selenite “may be toxic to blood, kidneys, liver, skin, central nervous system. Repeated or prolonged exposure to the substance can produce target organs damage.
      ANIMAL FAT: ingredient determined by the FDA to be most likely to contain euthanized animals. Can contain any animal including road kill.
      DRIED EGG PRODUCT: Eggs rejected for human use are turned into powdered or liquid for use by the pet food industry.
      Also, condensed information from “Poultry Science Association”: “acidified egg liquids are treated with 92% equivalency of 3.4 N NaOH after which egg meats were cooked and incorporated into a specialty pet food formulations.” NaOH is sodium hydroxide, commonly known as caustic or LYE….a CORROSIVE!
      CORN GLUTEN MEAL: is inferior grain-based protein used to boost protein percentages in kibble. It is what is left over after the choice part of the corn is used. GM (genetically modified corn) can also be used. This is the second or third ingredient listed in most of the Purina products which means it is one of the main ingredients instead of meat and it’s nutritional value for pets is little to none.
      FISH OIL: is commonly contaminated with mercury and other heavy metals, and preserved “at sea” with Ethoxyquin (which is a registered pesticide and labeled by the FDA as not fit for human consumption and is also a carcinogen).

      January 20, 2012 at 3:00 pm
  • wendy hudson says:

    Karen, this is a great websit: How did you ever finded the time. Hope the fur kids are good. Give the big girl a hug from Rossie and me..
    would love to see you when your free, meet me for coffee. wendy

    January 20, 2012 at 9:16 pm
    • Karen Murray says:

      Hey Wendy!
      Thank you! Glad you liked it! Let me know if you have any questions!
      Hugs back to your fur babies! :)

      January 20, 2012 at 10:44 pm
  • Kirsten says:

    Hi Karen!

    I found you through the LDT blog. You and your information are fantastic!! Thank you so much for sharing all your knowledge and hard work! You’ve taken so much of the confusion and bewilderment out of trying to feed our dog the best possible food.

    Our 8 week pup is currently on Earthborne Holistic Puppy Vantage. I’ve narrowed our choices for raw down to: THK and Fresh is Best. I was planning to do a variety of ‘flavors’ from whichever brand we chose. Do you recommend one over the other? A certain flavor of those brands? Can you suggest a plan for transitioning?

    And on to treats… I plan on making some from your recipe once I have my wits about me. (I have a 4 year old child, an 8 week old puppy and I work nights.) :-) Until then, is your highest recommendation for treats the THK or do you have others you would recommend?

    Thanks for all you do, Karen!
    ~Kirsten

    January 21, 2012 at 2:20 pm
    • Karen Murray says:

      Hi Kristen!
      There is nothing better than a puppy! Congratulations to you and your family!!!
      I’d be glad to help!
      If this were my pup I would start with just one change in his diet instead of two. Sometimes, with some dogs, too much of a good thing, isn’t so good! :) When changing foods two things are helpful to the dog for the transition. Choose the type of meat that is in the current food you are feeding. In your case the Earthborn Holistic Puppy Vantage, has Chicken and Fish as the main protein so I would choose the Honest Kitchen Thrive (all life stages) which is Chicken, with a gluten free grain called Quinoa, along with other vegetables and fruits. Since your pup was use to having chicken and grains (oatmeal, barley, rice and rye) in the Earthborn, I feel this will make an easier transition for him. The other thing is to switch him slowly. Since he is new to you, you don’t know what his little tummy is like yet. They are all so different! I’d try 1/4th cup of the HK (re-hydrated) with your Earthborn cut back a little. On the first and second day just do it for one meal and watch to see if there is any noticeable change in his stool. If not, on day 3 & 4 try it for two meals. And watch. I don’t know if you are feeding 2 or 3 meals per day, but just adjust the feedings. Keep this up for a few days and if no big change to his stool, increase to 1/2 cup and repeat the same as above. Continue increasing the amount of the HK while cutting back the Earthborn until he is switched over completely. Don’t feel like you have to rush this. Take your time. *Side note here, once he is possibly up to half way switched or completely switched, you will probably encounter a “detox” or “healing” period where the stool will be loose, smelly and mucousy. This is normal as his body changes with a “clean” food. Use some canned pumpkin (no spices included) mixed in to firm up the stool if really loose.
      I’d hold off on the raw for several weeks until he becomes accustom to his new home, new people, new food, etc. To try a little raw you could cut some tiny pieces chicken breast (easily cut with scissors) for training sessions. Just keep the amounts small and of course, since working with raw, be sure to wash counter surfaces, scissors and hands well. The HK treats are really nice. Also, a quick inexpensive treat is The Natural Healthy Steak Treats on my Recipe page. You simply cut all the fat off of a round steak, sear it on both sides in a non-stick pan with a little Pam, cool, and cut tiny pieces with scissors. Then, put in several zip lock baggies and freeze. Take a bag out of the freezer as needed.
      Another inexpensive treat would be to purchase a small bag of Orijen 80/20 kibble and use it as little cookies!.
      Also, THRIVE TREATS: Human grade ingredients, but these do not contain any meat. http://www.supertreats.net/Treats.html
      Check out the article on Puppy Vaccinations on the Vaccination page to become aware of the new regime with shots.
      Hope this helps! Shoot me some questions! :)

      January 21, 2012 at 7:03 pm
  • Ellen says:

    Hi Karen,
    I just checked the mail and my Dogs Naturally Magazine was here. As I was reading I saw your feedback and that Dr Becker is your pups vet. I started taking my lab to her last March. As a matter of fact we go back in two weeks. It’s been a roller coaster ride and are still trying to get Leila healthy again. I’ll never vaccinate again! It’s been a real learning experience. We’re new to all of this. Our first lab Cody, we had to end his suffering in 2009 at the young age of 5. He had lymphoma and it was very agressive.

    Your dogs are gorgeous!

    Ellen

    February 24, 2012 at 3:03 pm
  • Karen Murray says:

    Hi Ellen!
    How exciting that we have the same vet! I hope that Leila will regain her health. You’ve gone to the right place for that! Did Dr. Becker change her diet at all, or is she too ill? Complementary medicines such as homeopathy, herbals, supplements and acupuncture are new to most pet owners, but SO worth it! I think, once you start reading and familiarize yourself with the different modalities it will become clearer to you. Please let me know if I can help to explain in any way!
    I am SO very sorry about your Cody! Inoculations have their place, but NOT to the extent that the vets have made us believe all these years! They cause a lot of heart ache to us, and pain to our fur babies, to be sure.
    My wish for Leila is for her to regain her health with your tender care, and Doc’s knowledge!
    My best to you! :)

    February 24, 2012 at 3:39 pm
  • Johnny-Ray:Ehlers says:

    Hi Karen,
    Johnny & Hope here. Great site, thanks for telling me about it.
    I was a little disappointed to find out about Taste of the Wild
    dog food. Its so hard to find truly safe food these days. I bought a box of beef the other day, and was told it was free range fed, then came the bad part. The last two weeks they are fed only grain for the marbling, I asked if it was GMO free grain, and all I got was a blank stare. I keep praying for my own farm some day, wish me luck. Again great site, keep educating people.

    April 14, 2012 at 12:06 am
    • Karen Murray says:

      Thank you! And GOOD FOR YOU for contacting them to ask questions!
      Yes, it is a problem finding a good food! There are only one or two brands of kibble that do not contain Sodium Selenite or Copper Sulfate.
      The only TOTALLY HUMAN GRADE food out there is The Honest Kitchen Brand foods.
      The Honest Kitchen brands are ALL HUMAN GRADE the people there even taste test every batch!
      If you can’t feed raw or cooked raw meat, this is by far the cream of the crop! Don’t let the size of the box shock you! A 10 pound package makes 40 pounds of food when rehydrated with water! http://www.thehonestkitchen.com/about/what-makes-us-different/
      Carna 4 (unfortunately expensive) http://carna4.com/carna4-story
      SoJo’s: If you are ok with feeding grains, the SoJo’s Original Mix is oat based to which you add your own raw or cooked ground meat. I would suggest a multiple vitamin supplement and omega oils be added.
      If you want a non-grain diet try SoJo’s Grain Free Mix which is dehydrated vegetables to which you add your own raw or cooked ground meat. Again, looks expensive but this product is dehydrated so one pound rehydrates, with water, to 7 pounds of product. I suggest a multiple vitamin supplement and omega oils be added. They also have some new products. Complete Beef & Turkey Meals, one pound re-hydrates with water to make 5 pounds of food. I suggest a multiple vitamin supplement and omega oils be added. Click on the bag you are interested in to get more info. http://www.sojos.com/products

      April 14, 2012 at 8:33 am
  • Carole says:

    Awesome site! Karen, you ROCK!!!

    May 1, 2012 at 10:18 am
  • Mike Shinavier says:

    Karen, I was really dismayed in reading the dogfood lists. Companies that we previously researched and were found to be decent now appear to be crap. Can you tell me where Kirkland Signature Brand Lamb Meal and Rice fits into the list? I cringe in anticipation……

    Mike

    May 15, 2012 at 10:41 am
    • Karen Murray says:

      Hi Mike!
      Thank you for the opportunity to help!
      Were you aware that some of these Kirkland Products made by the Diamond Company were recalled due to salmonella? It effected dogs AND people! Here is the data:
      •Kirkland Signature Super Premium Adult Dog Lamb, Rice & Vegetable Formula, (Best Before December 9, 2012 through January 31, 2013) Distributed to the following and possibly others:
      •Alabama, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Tennessee, Vermont, Virginia, Canada, Puerto Rico
      There were many others brands. Let me know if you need the full list.
      I feel bad when I tell people what they are REALLY feeding!
      BUT….I feel really good when I know that they are questioning it for the good of their “fur kids”!
      The Sodium Selenite, Copper Sulfate, and the Egg Product are a real concern to me. The definitions are at the bottom of the Dog Food Brand Review.
      The next is the fish. They do not state on their site that their food is Ethoxyquin (which is a carcinogenic) free “AT SEA”. Diamond, the manufacturer, even made a statement: Per Diamond Pet Food Manufacturing: 4/10 Statement “all fish meal, ocean fish meal, and salmon “meal” ingredients are preserved with Ethoxyquin”. There is not any Ethoxyquin added” (this means that there is no ADDITIONAL Ethoxyquin added to their recipes). The definition of this is also at the end of the Dog Food Review.
      Next is that the carbohydrates out-weigh the meat protein. In the first 10 ingredients, there are 6 carbs listed to the 2 meats. AND their meat is not listed as Human Grade on their site. This means, in short, that the meat sources are questionable.
      Remember that there is no regulation on “words” in the pet food industry so a dog food company can use just about whatever they want EXCEPT Human Grade! “Premium”, “Quality”, “Natural”, “Performance”….are just that…..WORDS!
      There is only ONE company in the USA that the FDA allows the words “Human Grade” on their balanced dog food labels. It is a dehydrated food called The Honest Kitchen (purchased at pet boutiques). An 8 pound box makes about 35 to 40 pounds of food. Human grade food is used, processed in a human grade/inspected facility.
      From Canada, Orijen and Acana from the Champion Company are also good brands. If you choose the Orijen or Acana, introduce it slowly to your dogs’ daily meals by using a small portion of the new food with a greater portion of the current food. Then continue to increase the new and decrease the old as you see fit by the looks of the dogs stool. Depending on the dog, this should take one to two weeks.
      And last but not least is where do the vitamins/minerals they use come from???…..China???? I don’t know about Kirkland for sure, but Diamond, who produces it does source some of their vitamins from China. Kirkland has not responded to these questions per my email.
      If I can be of any further help, please don’t hesitate to ask!
      My Best to you and your “Fur Kids”!

      May 15, 2012 at 12:12 pm
  • Mike Shinavier says:

    Are Orijen and Acana available at stores like PetSmart? I haven’t noticed those brands before but then I haven’t been looking for them either. Are they comparable in price to HK?

    May 16, 2012 at 8:28 pm
    • Karen Murray says:

      Hi Mike,
      I’ve only seen the Orijen and Acana at “Pet Supply Plus” Chain Stores. You can google PSP to see if there is one in your area. Also at the Pet Boutiques.
      The Honest Kitchen is only available in Doggie Health Boutiques or it’s really cost effective to do The Honest Kitchen Auto Shipment Program http://www.thehonestkitchen.com/the-auto-ship-program/
      Although these prices are much higher than the Kirkland you’ve been feeding, you can rest assured there isn’t garbage in them. These choices would be SO great for your fur baby creating a healthier diet, less vet visits and a chance for a longer life! You could do a rotation of Acana and HK to keep your price down.
      Here is a guesstimate of prices as I got them from the internet:
      Orijen Kibble: 15.4 pound bag of 80/20 is $47 about $3 a pound
      Acana Kibble: 15.4 pound bag of 60/40 is $33 about $2.15 a pound
      Honest Kitchen Dehydrated Food: A 4 pound box makes approx. 16 pounds and is $43 about $2.69 a pound
      Introduce these slowly if you choose to go this direction, b/c these foods have high quality ingredients that your pups GI tract needs to get accustomed to.
      Let me know if you need any help! :)

      May 16, 2012 at 9:20 pm

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